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Julia Orwell
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JW Match Dating
by minimus inhave you seen it?
there are some fine brothers and sisters just waiting for a hookup!
check it out..
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All those times Jehovah answered my prayers...
by Julia Orwell in...and granted me strength, friends, a job, whatever...was all either through my own effort alone or sheer luck.. i wanted a government job so i prayed for one and went out looking for one every day for ages and made a heap of applications...and got one.
my own effort.. i wanted a friend and prayed for one, crying myself to sleep with loneliness.....and after 6 months in the new congregation someone reached out to me.
chance.. i prayed to be able to stand up to my family when they put pressure on me about christmas etc...my own cult conditioning so strong.. i prayed to find a nice husband...luck when i moved congregations and one of those sisters who just has to match make introduced us.
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Julia Orwell
I find believing god isn't going to answer prayers if he even exists motivates me more to get out there and make life happen. One can stagnate as a jw, rolling everything onto Jehovah, as they say, and waiting on Jehovah and leaving it in his hands. Or the 'I went out witnessing more and answered up more etc so Jehovah should bless me' mentality ie make an offering to your god in exchange for a good harvest mentality, ie earn favors from Jehovah. Seen it so often. Now it's nice to realise we make our own destinies.
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JW Apolgist rant here...and confession.
by Julia Orwell ini really don't like people disparaging active jws on this site by calling them stupid, idiots, morons and that, and making out like they're willing puppets to the gb or cruel at heart.
or describing them like they're puke or as having no desire to learn or listen.. to you, all these things may be true.
we all have opinions and are entitled to them.
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All those times Jehovah answered my prayers...
by Julia Orwell in...and granted me strength, friends, a job, whatever...was all either through my own effort alone or sheer luck.. i wanted a government job so i prayed for one and went out looking for one every day for ages and made a heap of applications...and got one.
my own effort.. i wanted a friend and prayed for one, crying myself to sleep with loneliness.....and after 6 months in the new congregation someone reached out to me.
chance.. i prayed to be able to stand up to my family when they put pressure on me about christmas etc...my own cult conditioning so strong.. i prayed to find a nice husband...luck when i moved congregations and one of those sisters who just has to match make introduced us.
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Julia Orwell
...and granted me strength, friends, a job, whatever...was all either through my own effort alone or sheer luck.
I wanted a government job so I prayed for one and went out looking for one every day for ages and made a heap of applications...and got one. My own effort.
I wanted a friend and prayed for one, crying myself to sleep with loneliness.....and after 6 months in the new congregation someone reached out to me. Chance.
I prayed to be able to stand up to my family when they put pressure on me about Christmas etc...my own cult conditioning so strong.
I prayed to find a nice husband...luck when I moved congregations and one of those sisters who just has to match make introduced us. Chance.
I prayed for financial stability...then I worked for years to get a degree. My own effort.
I prayed every day for my family to 'come into the truth'... and it turns out they always had it.
It was never Jehovah. He didn't give me anything. Fourteen years of praying every day and things happened because I made them, or because of chance.
What about you? How were your prayers 'answered'?
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Is JW Baptism the Only Valid Baptism?
by Cold Steel inwhat is the watchtower bible and tract societys view on baptism?
is it absolutely essential that one be baptized to gain eternal life in gods kingdom?.
and can they tell you who you can and cant baptize?.
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Julia Orwell
Hey so did that ghostly aparition-looking Jesus really visit Joseph Smith and that other guy like in the bottom picture? They look like they're really freaking out. Maybe they're freaking out that Jesus told Joseph Smith to marry 27 women and Brigham Young over 70. That's enough to freak out most normal men.
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JW Apolgist rant here...and confession.
by Julia Orwell ini really don't like people disparaging active jws on this site by calling them stupid, idiots, morons and that, and making out like they're willing puppets to the gb or cruel at heart.
or describing them like they're puke or as having no desire to learn or listen.. to you, all these things may be true.
we all have opinions and are entitled to them.
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Julia Orwell
Gingerbread: I've come to believe that the most aggressively vocal and judgemental members on JWN have never ceased thinking like a Jehovah's Witness - 'I'm RIGHT and you're WRONG'.
I've noticed that too. That JW mindset can be hard to shake. But once I realised I didn't have all the answers, the universe got a whole lot more interesting for me, and people's opinions didn't make me angry.
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Is JW Baptism the Only Valid Baptism?
by Cold Steel inwhat is the watchtower bible and tract societys view on baptism?
is it absolutely essential that one be baptized to gain eternal life in gods kingdom?.
and can they tell you who you can and cant baptize?.
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Julia Orwell
Cold Steel: "Yes, so baptisms by “apostate” Christians have no valid authority. But what if a person were baptized by a non-denominational Christian, someone who said, “We have no established doctrine or creeds, but we will baptize you by immersion in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit”? My point is, what makes the Jehovah's Witnesses believe that they hold the “keys” to baptize, and that no one else may do it? "
First question, that is still not valid because JWs believe that to have God's approval and authority in any way, shape or form, they MUST be part of the JW organisation. The second question: the answer to that is the same as why they think they and they alone are the true religion. That they were chosen by Jehovah in 191-whenever as the 'approved' and true religion. No reference is ever made to 'keys' because that is one of the zillions of scriptures they marginalise. It's all nuts. There is no good reason for the way they do, but I tell you what makes them think there is. It's hard to comprehend unless you've been part of it.
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Julia Orwell
The goats were smart enough to see the Flood coming.
Branch out in your service.
Nothing's too high for you if you learn to climb.
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Did you suffer humiliating childhood experiences as a JW?
by yadda yadda 2 inin john cedar's (jwsurvey.org) latest excellent article on his blog about a us teacher that got reprimanded for trying to force a jw boy to salute the american flag, he relates a similar childhood experience where he was terribly humiliated at school in view of his classmates.. this reminded me of a similar humiliating experience i suffered at school, when i was 11 years old.
during our school's end of year 'prom night' (not actually called that in the country i live) which was in the style of a disco night, my unbalanced jw mother came to pick me up early and stormed right into the hall and grabbed my arm and pulled me out in front of all my friends right in the middle of the dancing.
on the way out she gave the teachers a lecture about the music being far too loud and how unwholesome the whole thing was for children of my age.
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Julia Orwell
I'm a teacher and I couldn't imagine a teacher doing anything like that these days where I live. We have to respect diversity and professionally aren't allowed to push our personal views. At one of the schools at which I work, a teacher aide screamed and ranted at all the JW kids in the school for not going to the ANZAC Day parade, and he lost his job over it because you're not supposed to go on like that. Things must be really different here and now because the things Cedars and some of you others experienced- hey, Cedars is the same age as me, and I remember when I was in school the JW kids didn't get hassled by the teachers or humiliated in front of the class, they were allowed to politely decline Christmas and other religious activities and do their own thing. I only know because when I sat religious things out as an atheist child, we all ended up together, while the other kids did their things. No humiliation, no disrespect.
And now in 2013 as a teacher myself I find it's the same. Seriously, any teacher who humiliates a kid because of his or her religious upbringing is not only extremely unprofessional, but also runs the risk of losing his/her job. As the experience with the angry teacher aide over ANZAC Day illustrates, that sort of thing is very rare here to the point that it cost this man his job. Perhaps we Australians are more laid back than English or American teachers, and more professional.
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Elder blows a head gasket
by Crazyguy inok so today while at breakfast get a phone call fom my daughter asking were i am because an elder/ friend had stoped by my house hoping to see me.
its been a few months since ive seen this guy and the only one that seems to actually care.
so anyway he meets me at were i was having breakfast and we start to talk.
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Julia Orwell
The Org doesn't want anyone to dig too deep. Compare what you know now about JW doctrine to what you knew when you were in.
